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Why are wow youtubers calling the draenor orcs mag'har orcs?

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#1 Collector

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Posted 14 April 2018 - 04:05 PM

Ok, one thing that is really bugging me lately is many wow youtubers are calling the new draenor/brown orc allied race mag'har orcs.

 

This is bugging me for several reasons. One, the mag'har orcs were just one small clan of brown orcs found on nagrand that happened to avoid the legion's fel corruption due to the red pox illness and had to be exiled from the rest of the orc clans to avoid infecting them with the disease.

Two, the draenor orcs have many clans at their disposal in addition to the mag'har, clans for people who know warcraft lore should know about and be very well aware of.

My question for all of this is why are they calling draenor/brown orcs mag'har orcs, is it because blizzard themselves are calling the draenor orcs mag'har orcs? if so I am seriously disappointed at that.



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Posted 14 April 2018 - 04:07 PM

Mag'har means uncorrupted. For all purpouses and uses, those orcs are mag'har, uncorrupted orcs. regardless of being AU or not. Mag'har is not necessarely the clan on Outland. Mag'har literally translates to uncorrupted in Orcish.

And its not the youtubers who say it like that. Ion Hazzikostas, current game director of WoW, identified them as Mag'har orcs in the first place, because, on an Azerothian standpoint, they are Mag'har


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Posted 14 April 2018 - 04:10 PM

because theyre called mag'har orcs ingame too



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Posted 14 April 2018 - 04:12 PM

Mag'har means uncorrupted. For all purpouses and uses, those orcs are mag'har, uncorrupted orcs. regardless of being AU or not. Mag'har is not necessarely the clan on Outland. Mag'har literally translates to uncorrupted in Orcish.

But it literally says here that the mag'har were one exiled clan of brown orcs on nagrand and are not every brown orc: https://wow.gamepedia.com/Mag%27har it literally doesn't mention anywhere that the mag'har were every uncorrupted orc on draenor.

 

Hopefully I am getting ahead of myself and the new allied race will be called brown orcs or draenor orcs.

 

edit: and my disappointment levels have risen yet again as I just found another page that was posted recently that says the brown orcs were called mag'har, even though they should just be called draenor orcs and not what was some random clan on nagrand. This is exactly why you shouldn't trust blizzard with story, this is nearly as disappointing as how they made Zul a generic rambling servant of the old gods when he was much more interesting as an exiled prophet who no-one believed or understood.



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Posted 14 April 2018 - 04:17 PM

But it literally says here that the mag'har were one exiled clan of brown orcs on nagrand and are not every brown orc: https://wow.gamepedia.com/Mag%27har it literally doesn't mention anywhere that the mag'har were every uncorrupted orc on draenor. Hopefully I am getting ahead of myself and the new allied race will be called brown orcs or draenor orcs.


Again, Mag'har, in orcish, literally translates to uncorrupted. And we know this since TBC. The clan of outland called themselves the mag'har "The Uncorrupted" referencing to the fact that they are NOT green. The word still means "Uncorrupted". Every orc that its not green and its on its natural colors its rightfully and already stablished in lore as a Mag'har, an uncorrupted, orc.

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Posted 14 April 2018 - 04:30 PM

and my disappointment levels have risen yet again as I just found another page that was posted recently that says the brown orcs were called mag'har, even though they should just be called draenor orcs and not what was some random clan on nagrand.


Dude wtf? Mag'har is a thing as a word since TBC what drugs you on about? The clan on draenor is literally called after a simple orcish word. What are they gonna call them? "Un-green orcs?" Because Draenor orcs or brown orcs are retarded names. Mag'har is an already stablished word of the orcish language since TBC and it applies to every brown orc SINCE TBC.

Jesus, this just shows how stupidily bitchy a part of the community is and why they should be ignored.


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Posted 14 April 2018 - 04:39 PM

is this a troll?

as said above mag'har = uncorrupted. AU draenorcs = uncorrupted


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Posted 14 April 2018 - 04:54 PM

Mag'har the Outland faction and the Mag'har Orcs are different, they're simply.. well, as everyone else said, uncorrupted.

 

Watcher even clarified that in a stream. The Mag'har Orcs we recruit are from Draenor's clans, simply referred to the Mag'har due to the fact that they are Uncorrupted Draenor Orcs.


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Posted 14 April 2018 - 05:05 PM

mag'har orcs are uncorrupted orcs. the mag'har clan or faction or whatever, if you can even call it that, consists of many orcs from all the other clans that did not get corrupted and did not fight in the wars due to the red pox. 

therefore, the youtubers are correct. any orc that's not green or any shade of green - mag'har orc.



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Posted 14 April 2018 - 05:07 PM

But it literally says here that the mag'har were one exiled clan of brown orcs on nagrand and are not every brown orc: https://wow.gamepedia.com/Mag%27har it literally doesn't mention anywhere that the mag'har were every uncorrupted orc on draenor.

 

You uh- You didn't read properly there my dude. First line. VERY TOP OF THE PAGE.

"This article is about the Mag'har faction lore. For the uncorrupted orcs, see Mag'har orc."

So https://wow.gamepedi...com/Mag'har_orc is the page you want to look at, cause otherwise you are purely looking at the faction, not the race.


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Posted 14 April 2018 - 05:13 PM

You uh- You didn't read properly there my dude. First line. VERY TOP OF THE PAGE.

"This article is about the Mag'har faction lore. For the uncorrupted orcs, see Mag'har orc."

So https://wow.gamepedi...com/Mag'har_orc is the page you want to look at, cause otherwise you are purely looking at the faction, not the race.

If you looked at my edit on that post you will see that I noticed this and expressed my feelings towards it.

 

I say just name your uncorrupted orc character's race by the clan they came from.



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Posted 14 April 2018 - 06:17 PM

I say just name your uncorrupted orc character's race by the clan they came from.

Green orcs can come from different clans. They are still green.

Uncorrupted orcs are a thing of the past in Azeroth, they are rare and should be classified under Mag'har regardless.


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Posted 14 April 2018 - 09:40 PM

also from the BfA datamining it says in wake of the burning legion invasion, all the orc clans on AU dreanor joined together as one single joint tribe and named themselves the Mag'har tribe and are led by Warchief Grom. 


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Posted 15 April 2018 - 01:29 AM

"i do not like your name, so i'll call you by a different one which is essentially the same and not really different, but it isn't the first name so that's ok with me, all because i can't fucking read"

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 10:55 AM

Everything AU, including the brown orcs is just awful. Blizzard gonna retcon us destroying the Dark Portal as well I'd imagine.

 

 

 

joined together as one single joint tribe and named themselves the Mag'har tribe and are led by Warchief Grom. 

 

The cringe, the fanservice. The very same guy who declared an all-out war on all the clans who refused to join his first attempt at uniting them all under the Iron Horde, I bet the Frostwolves were overjoyed.


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Posted 15 April 2018 - 01:58 PM

Also lets not mention the mag'har isnt even an 'exiled clan' idk where your wowpedia post got that from. It was a relief camp, a spot to send the red pox victims, so they don't infect others, and also obtain the aid of the shamans there; because of this also, people hid their children here they didn't want to get involved. That's why you have Thrall's grandma, a frostwolf, Greatmother Geyah at the helm, then what's this Garrosh Hellscream, warsong? Just to name a few more to prove the point Jorin Deadeye, Kilrogg's kid; Bleeding Hollow, and obviously Dranosh; Blackrock. But mag'har means uncorrupted, so aka all the draenor orcs from the allied race are mag'har, would they like use the term themselves? No because to them its not like the mag'har are some minority group like they are in our timeline.

 

Edit: Just saw collector's edit, late to the party rip.


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Posted 17 April 2018 - 01:07 AM

because youtube is for nerds

AND WE'RE NOT NERDS

ARE WE?


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